firstly, many non-US 12step groups do not say god, they say higher power, the US is the centre of the religious end of 12 stepping.
My vid is a bit random, I have only recently looked into 12 step, but I’ll do a part two if there is demand. look into it for yourselves, and make up your own minds.
The cult is full form is very much an American phenomenon.
Penn & Teller: Bullshit – 12 Stepping.
I would say further research suggests it is not as bad in the UK, still a Tiger can’t change it’s spots in terms of the foundation of AA & the 12 step system of recovery.
I have known a few guys who have been stuck in AA, it does not work for them because they have low self-esteem, and so until a person deals with an underlying issue they won’t fully recover, groups can just take you away from the bottle.
a few therapies used to get over alcoholism:
AA Cult Watch Website:
a great article from the independent news paper:
a good article from positiveatheism.org:
an article pointing out how at least in many cases 12 step can be a cult:
more critical links about of 12 step & AA:
AA & 12 step links to articles & websites, the pro-AA side of the debate:
in the end you can only make up your own mind on this, and many people out there are talking shit, so avoid the crazy conspiracy theories and stick to the facts, don’t get suckered by the success stories, they are not an every case event by a long shot.